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Yeah, the cost for a frame kit or a used frame is outrageous right now. You can build a frame from scratch for exponentially less money. I have a metal distributor local that I get fantastic pricing on tubing from and well in this economy every savings helps. I can build 3 frames without rims...

So what you are saying is that basically it is the same as a Tillotson 212 stage 1 but for about 150 bucks cheaper.

Here is what I am curious of, what is the out of box power rating using the accessories kit that the box says you have to purchase separately? I have scoured the web and nowhere does it denote the power output and if you do a Google search it shows the Max performance engine specs of 15.8 hp but...