Don't need fast Top Speed, I prefer to stay under like 30MPH anyway.
I want fast Pick-up though. Pick-up and mini bikes don't go hand in hand. A 2 cycle dirt bike like an Apollo 125cc would be better but I don't want one now.
If possible I prefer something already built like this, but also OK with building it.
5'8", 165 lbs, very able-bodied.
I'm good with small engines, youtube tutorials makes it easy too.
Want 196-212cc, front shocks, headlight. Doesn't need great shocks because not riding crazy in woods or jumping, nor need great braking because aren't going too fast.
Want small frame like Coleman BT200X which has front shocks and a light, or the TrailMaster Storm 200 (doesn't have front shocks and unsure if even available, doesn't have light either). BT200x is about 7" longer at 5 feet overall and prefer that.
To fit a torque converter on a BT200x might need to cut the frame, raise engine w spacers, loose exhaust heat shield etc, but I'm ok with that if I choose a BT200x unless there's a better option.
Some guy on youtube torq converted his BT200x and thinks it actually had better pickup as stock but got faster top speed with the converter, someone replied should have just used a different tooth sprocket and/or aluminum flyweights for better pickup, or that uphill the torque converter will really show. I don't really have hills but still want fast pickup. Some mentioned that it might be better to use a Predator 212 to 'just throw a tav on" (and not have the problems the guy had with a cheaper torque kit having to use shaft adapters and bang on things and shave things down etc). But I think they meant because he used a 3/4" crank kit with adapter to 5/8" which needed adapters. The 200 series Coleman torque kit should fit no problem but is about +$200 and unsure if worth it.
Sprocket size, pre-stretched chain, torque converters, stage 1-3 upgrades, removing govenor, etc, are all new to me but I think I need these for faster pick up.
But I don't want the engine to blow when I'm miles into the woods. I can replace a blown engine cheap though for like $150 212 Predator Harbor Freight.
I'm in NJ and have within decent driving distance Harbor Freight, Camping World, Tractor Supply, Walmart, in case I can get something shipped to store free and save on that.
I watched some Predator 212 vs Tillotson 212 videos but they go too in depth and lost me but I think in terms of pick-up it doesn't make a huge difference to justify double price of a Tillotson if I buy a kit and a Predator instead. Tillotson might be able to charge a headlight and not the predator but I'm ok with even just using some battery powered headlight if available or even just one or two 18650 battery bicycle lights.
Is there a small frame kit (not kid size though) with shocks that can use a 212 predator and get very good pickup with some of the easier mods?
I want fast Pick-up though. Pick-up and mini bikes don't go hand in hand. A 2 cycle dirt bike like an Apollo 125cc would be better but I don't want one now.
If possible I prefer something already built like this, but also OK with building it.
5'8", 165 lbs, very able-bodied.
I'm good with small engines, youtube tutorials makes it easy too.
Want 196-212cc, front shocks, headlight. Doesn't need great shocks because not riding crazy in woods or jumping, nor need great braking because aren't going too fast.
Want small frame like Coleman BT200X which has front shocks and a light, or the TrailMaster Storm 200 (doesn't have front shocks and unsure if even available, doesn't have light either). BT200x is about 7" longer at 5 feet overall and prefer that.
To fit a torque converter on a BT200x might need to cut the frame, raise engine w spacers, loose exhaust heat shield etc, but I'm ok with that if I choose a BT200x unless there's a better option.
Some guy on youtube torq converted his BT200x and thinks it actually had better pickup as stock but got faster top speed with the converter, someone replied should have just used a different tooth sprocket and/or aluminum flyweights for better pickup, or that uphill the torque converter will really show. I don't really have hills but still want fast pickup. Some mentioned that it might be better to use a Predator 212 to 'just throw a tav on" (and not have the problems the guy had with a cheaper torque kit having to use shaft adapters and bang on things and shave things down etc). But I think they meant because he used a 3/4" crank kit with adapter to 5/8" which needed adapters. The 200 series Coleman torque kit should fit no problem but is about +$200 and unsure if worth it.
Sprocket size, pre-stretched chain, torque converters, stage 1-3 upgrades, removing govenor, etc, are all new to me but I think I need these for faster pick up.
But I don't want the engine to blow when I'm miles into the woods. I can replace a blown engine cheap though for like $150 212 Predator Harbor Freight.
I'm in NJ and have within decent driving distance Harbor Freight, Camping World, Tractor Supply, Walmart, in case I can get something shipped to store free and save on that.
I watched some Predator 212 vs Tillotson 212 videos but they go too in depth and lost me but I think in terms of pick-up it doesn't make a huge difference to justify double price of a Tillotson if I buy a kit and a Predator instead. Tillotson might be able to charge a headlight and not the predator but I'm ok with even just using some battery powered headlight if available or even just one or two 18650 battery bicycle lights.
Is there a small frame kit (not kid size though) with shocks that can use a 212 predator and get very good pickup with some of the easier mods?