I recently sold a Lil Indian to a guy out in Arizona that has one, he actually won it at the Honda dealer in a raffle totally free, no strings attached! then they called him a week later to see how he liked it. He said "its great and I love it thank you very much, but I have to say the seat feels like your sitting on wooden board." so the Honda rep sent him a Corbin seat for it...for free, sometimes it pays to check the mouth on that gifthorse :laugh: