Karcher KXS 302cc

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Does anyone have good info or experience with the KXS 302??? I have done a governor bypass with a kakumi carb but have not hooked up the throttle or the gas for testing. I'm planning on doing a full delete in the near future, but would love any input on how much of a beating this engine can handle without a full delete. this is going on an older Baja Warrior form the early 2000s to be used as a little town and countryside cruiser, straight chain set up.
 

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#2
Nice bike! Welcome to OldMiniBikes!

I would honestly wait til you get a new flywheel as opposed to messing with the governor. The governors can and will explode inside your engine from rpm stress, which will damage everything within the engine. Additionally, when removing the governor, you need to upgrade your flywheel to something that can handle more rpm. flywheels will grenade and you will lose your limbs, possibly your life. No flywheel is built the same, so you don't really know when any will go. I especially think you should keep the stock flywheel big bores governed, just because there is more mass to the rotating assembly.

Solution: Keep governed for now, buy billet flywheel and remove gov once you have the flywheel. You can also add some stiffer valve springs to reduce valve float and free up more high rpm power. I also highly recommend a better conrod at that.

This raises some very important questions though. What is your goal? More speed? More torque while maintaining your speed? Are you on a budget?
If you just want speed, there is no reason to overly stress your engine when you can simply have a gear reduction from where it is at now. A stock 212 will get you 50 mph. You have a 302, soo...
If you just want more power I'd recommend exploring some free mods such as shaving the head (possible with sandpaper on the flattest surface available, Ive used a panel of glass), advancing the timing (again, sandpaper and time is all you need), porting, and up-jetting the carb (can be done with tiny drill bits). I recommend valve springs on top of other mods too. Instead of up-jetting, a simple mikuni slide carb or likewise id also recommend. all combined (minus the mikuni) you can expect 10-13 hp
Billet flywheels are expensive, but are the only safe way you can remove the governor.
As for how much the engine will take... If you mess around without that governor and rev the snot out of it you'll find out..... don't
 
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I am one of the old guys who thinks the governor is there for some very good reasons. If you want a good, RELIABLE engine, leave the governor alone. It you want to go fast, buy a motorcycle. If you want to build a small general purpose engine into a performance engine, take time to educate yourself, spend many dollars on performance parts and tools. I think you might have some problems finding performance parts for that engine. We can help you go faster without damaging your engine.
 
#5
In middle school shop class, I made a manifold to adapt a Mikuni carb from one of my brothers Honda 70's to one of the B&S engines on my minibike. In my ignorance (I was maybe 16-17), I disconnected the governor not really understanding what it did. It did really wake the minibike up! No I don't recommend doing this and don't want to be banned. This would have been around 1978 time frame. A friend and his dad raced gokarts at that time and that is what they had done, so I copied it.

Wow what a ticking time bomb I was riding! Glad I had no issues. That was a good read in the link in Post#3. It would be interesting to see examples of how the governor would be retained when upgrading a carb.
 
#6
They do make larger, performance oriented, adjustable stock-type replacement carbs that allow faster acceleration and stronger torque while retaining the governor. It won't rev higher, but it will pull better. By moving the spring on the governor arm out toward the end of the arm, the engine will rev a little bit higher before the governor pulls it back.
 
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