Pure reliability

#21
scour yardsales for old flatheads and buy a carb to put on one after you apply elbow grease, or buy a clone and prep it and strap it on with less time and less hassle.

I dont mind flatheads just dont like the carbs they have on them most of the time.

alot of modern small engines have funky carbs with epa bulls**t non adjustable garbage.
and I don't really like when the carb uses the tank as the float bowl because then your stuck using that tank. Its all personal preference but the clones are so damn cheap only reason to stick the nose up at one is stubborness because they are very high quality for the price, there are places that remove oem honda parts and sell them and they bolt on to the clones if you mess something up, and you can still scour the junkpiles and yardsales for old flatheads and bring them back to life.

another thing I like about the clones is that I feel like i have more options.
 

minidragbike

Supporting Speed Nut!
#22
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:thefinger:

The thread was about pure reliability and I was saying that the knock (propaganda) on old flat heads being unreliable was pure horse pucky!

I have old Briggs and Tecumeshs from the 60-70 that still run good and have never been rebuilt.
True, I use to run a old 5hp briggs that was about 10 years old 18 years ago. If you keep the motor clean it will basically run forever.
 
#23
:oops:

:thefinger:

The thread was about pure reliability and I was saying that the knock (propaganda) on old flat heads being unreliable was pure horse pucky!

I have old Briggs and Tecumeshs from the 60-70 that still run good and have never been rebuilt.

either type of engine will eventually wear down cylinder walls, rings and valve seats. I doubt either engine would outlast the other by much. I do know I would rebuild a flathead and just buy another clone rather than rebuild it.

if it has a engine and 2 wheels u cant go wrong and u cant please everyone some guys are stuck on flatheads some oppose them and some dont care either way.
 

george3

Active Member
#24
Some bikes just dont look rite with the clones. like I always say 5HP or better. cast iron sleeve duel ball bearing. carbs non adjustable are garbage. china products suck. but 100.00 for a new engine, they suck a little less.
 

minidragbike

Supporting Speed Nut!
#25
Yeah I know what you mean. I just sold three 5hp briggs mltors for $100 each. The motors were brand new never ran. I couldn't sell them locally because no one wanted to pay $100 bucks for a 5hp motor, when the can get a 6.5hp Clone for the same price.

The clones have pretty much brung down the cost of motors, and even performance parts.
 
#26
We all know Honda is better quality than it's clone but the kicker is you can buy between 3-5 clones for the price of a Honda.Honda shouldn't cry to the courts about clones when they overprice their engines.Honda is overpriced period.
 

minidragbike

Supporting Speed Nut!
#27
We all know Honda is better quality than it's clone but the kicker is you can buy between 3-5 clones for the price of a Honda.Honda shouldn't cry to the courts about clones when they overprice their engines.Honda is overpriced period.
Well I personally only run real Honda motors. Yes it's more expensive, but the better quality parts come in handy when building a modified motor.

The most I have even seen a clone make is about 22hp. But it doesn't run as much as my motor does. Plus it have been through a lot to keep it running correctly. The crank has been balanced, head, and piston is real Honda, ARC rod, ARC flywheel, welded regrind cam. The only that is still clone is the block, and side cover.
 
#28
clones

smetimes people have power equipment with a honda engine that needs repair and they just toss out the old engine and buy a clone because it is cheaper than paying someone to fix the genuine engine. If your lucky you can dumpster dive and have a genuine honda engine case.

I am thinking about making friends with the small engine shop near me and asking if he tosses out the 6.5's ever
 
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