just thought I share my recent expensive shipping ! lol ok I sold a small 50cc zundapp engine . its for the steen taco f85 a rear bird . 400.00 bucks plus shipping?? seems pretty fair . now I live in philly pa the guy who bought it?calif. lol of course. so I say hey throw me another 50 bucks for shipping and insurance?? done deal . now I pack her up real nice and tight and go to the post office . quote for cheapest way?? 115.00!!with out insurance !ouch . forget that ! go to ups.. quote there?? 85.00 better ok lets do it .my customer graciously agrees to send me another 35.00 for the shipping . all good now I tell them I want 500.00 insurance on package. they have a ups conference !! lol and decide its not packed well enough to insure . they have too repack my package to insure it. long story short?? 115.00 total cost to pack and insure a 35lb package! remember guys it cost a dam fortune now to ship things .oh and i order myself the wrong size minibike tires from mfg in wi. no problem we will gladly take the 48.00 off your bill return them u pay shipping . packed them up quote from ups??? 37.00 to ship !! guess I keeping them for the next build?? lol gas