AAAGGGHHH! Tappered shaft!

N-gin

New Member
#1
Took apart the generator engine GX160. Found that it had a tapperd shaft:doah:. Do they sell clutches for these? Or belt drives:evil_laughter:.
Or am I stuck buying a crank?...
 

mac350

New Member
#3
wow i had no idea that they could be used. damm i turned down so many of those tapered shafted moters ti aint funny.

my only queation how much power can you get out of them.
 

N-gin

New Member
#4
Hey Now no hijacking my tread. :hammer:

:blink:But To answer your question for about $200 you can get a 5.5 honda clone to put out 10 horses and about 5,000 rpm.:cool:
Now back to my question...

Is there a site I can go to for purchasing a clutch to fit one of these.

Orange arrow shows the shaft out of the engine, also known as the crank.
The purple arow is the shaft diameter of 3/4.
Red arrow shows the tapper were the apporatis seats on and locks into place.
Lastly the green arrow is were the bolt holds the apporatis down to the seat locking it in place.
 
#7
Comet offers some drive components made for tapered crankshafts...

Some of the old Cushman Scooter engines had tapered cranks, and Comet makes torque converter components to fit them...

Maybe you could send them an e-mail with the dimensions of your crankshaft, and they can advise which of their products will fit...

They make dozens of different driveline components for OEM use, most of which aren't spec'd to the general public, but maybe if someone asks...

...or, just get a machinist to make you a sleeve or taper-bore your clutch.
 

Oldsalt

Well-Known Member
#8
Yelowhand
I turned a shaft down, in an old Southbend, without removeing the crank. Pulled flywheel and chucked it. Steadyrested the shaft and set the compound for 30 degrees and made a center in the output end. It had a 1/4 tapped hole in it. Then, of course, the rest was simple. Yes, the block was immobilized and the spark plug was removed. Piece of cake.
 
#9
I've heard stories of guys turning down the shaft on running engines by clamping it to the bed of the lathe with the base of the block shimmed to get the crank on-center with the tool holder...
 

Oldsalt

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#10
I've heard stories of guys turning down the shaft on running engines by clamping it to the bed of the lathe with the base of the block shimmed to get the crank on-center with the tool holder...
That would work! I have done some screwy things with a lathe but I never thought of that one. The problem of getting a new key way, without removing the shaft, is another issue.
 
#11
Eventually, I'm going to do a project thread on an engine rebuild involving turning down a tapered crank and also turning down the flywheel...

I have a Tecumseh HM scavenged from a chipper/shredder that has a 7/8" tapered crank and an 8lb flywheel...the rod knocks, so it's a good candidate for conversion to a minibike engine...

I've been waiting to do this engine until I find a 'deal' on a horizontal mill suitable for my garage...once I find one, I'll set it up to cut 5/16" keyways, and we'll start turning down some of these tapered cranks everyone here at OldMiniBikes seems to have hanging around their garages...

Cost should be just mailing the crank to me in Nebraska, and return mailing back to the owner...

I think it will be appealing to most people if there is a project thread showing the procedure and cost of parts (gasket kit, etc.) for a simple rebuild...

Tools like spring compressors and valve lapping kits are cheaply available at most local auto parts stores...
 

Oldsalt

Well-Known Member
#12
Eventually, I'm going to do a project thread on an engine rebuild involving turning down a tapered crank and also turning down the flywheel...

I have a Tecumseh HM scavenged from a chipper/shredder that has a 7/8" tapered crank and an 8lb flywheel...the rod knocks, so it's a good candidate for conversion to a minibike engine...

I've been waiting to do this engine until I find a 'deal' on a horizontal mill suitable for my garage...once I find one, I'll set it up to cut 5/16" keyways, and we'll start turning down some of these tapered cranks everyone here at OldMiniBikes seems to have hanging around their garages...

Cost should be just mailing the crank to me in Nebraska, and return mailing back to the owner...

I think it will be appealing to most people if there is a project thread showing the procedure and cost of parts (gasket kit, etc.) for a simple rebuild...

Tools like spring compressors and valve lapping kits are cheaply available at most local auto parts stores...
Here is a picture of a really "half asked" set up I used to keyway a shaft on a military model Clinton. Note the waterproof spark plug and wire. The shaft was steadied by holding the pair of Vice-Grips locked on the shaft! It is necessary to have a DR extension and collets to reach the shaft with an endmill. But as you can see... it can be done.
 
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#14
Cool pic...

I never scoff at ingenuity...some of these old engines can't be disassembled because finding NOS gaskets/seals is next to impossible...

Cut-off wheels erode during use...depth of the keyway is critical...

BTW, I meant 3/16" keyways in my earlier post...
 
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