New Shop Saw

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#2
ordered a new cold saw for the shop:

https://www.precisionmatthews.com/shop/pm-cs315/

this will augment my cutting and sawing abilities. i wanted a more accurate miter than my bandsaw:

https://www.grizzly.com/products/grizzly-4-x-6-3-4-hp-metal-cutting-bandsaw/g0622

the band saw is fine for what it is but its slow to cut.

the new saw shipped today so when the truck shows up pics will be posted!
You will enjoy the new saw.

We had a cold saw like that at school. The first time I used it I broke the blade on it.... A good dose of duh huh...

Unlike a band saw the cold saw doesnt tolerate a piece being cut to move. The piece I was cutting jumped up out of the vice and bound up the blade. Instant carneige. I have had a piece come out of the vise on my Ellis band saw and the head would just jump up away from the pieces without breaking the saw blade. Scares the heck out of you but it survives. Miter cutting abilities is why I bought my Ellis 1600 band saw. It cuts 45 degrees either right or left. The head rotates so you never have to fight adjusting the vice to the desired angle. I always cut to the right because the vice is on the left as is the feed table. It has been a great saw for my purposes. Ellis makes horizontal band saws that will miter cut up to 60 degrees in either right or left cuts.
 
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#3
your ellis is a massive piece of equipment, i like the capacities, 10" round! a local supplier has this old scotchman cold saw they let me use when i'm buying stock. i got hooked on it and never thought about a big band saw. i bought a mill from precision mathews and the service and tech support is outstanding so i figured i would try out one of there cold saws. the truck is stuck in philly, so maybe tomorrow!
 
#4
I liked the one that I used at school. It did great and did have a small footprint. My only complaint was that it was messy until I made a "squeegey" for the wet side of the blade. It keep all the splatter from being thrown off the front of the blade. I will see if I can get Steve to send me a pic of it. You might want to add one to the new saw. Kept the floor a lot cleaner. I did learn that swinging it back to the 90 degree position was not 90 degrees with it against the stop. I always set it with the square. The young guys never checked it and moved it regularly.

I had owned my Ellis 10 years when I went to school and used the cold saw there. Had never used one or been around one until then. 10" round will fit in my Ellis BUT it aint no fun... And you are correct it does have a huge foot print. My metal rack is right behind the saw. Makes it easy to set a piec of steel off the rack onto the feed table. The 2 combined take up almost a full stall sized area. 20" by 12" Not to mention the occasional 24" stick of steel...
 

DaddyJohn

Well-Known Member
#5
On my end, to get pieces of metal off other pieces of metal, I typically use a cheap electric 4-1/2" angle grinder with a cut-off disc, a Sioux pneumatic die-grinder with a cut-off wheel, an electric die-grinder with cut-off wheel, Black and Decker Wizard multi-tool with cut-off wheel, hacksaw, Makita reciprocating saw, or Black and Decker jigsaw. Depending on the material or situation... I am thinking about trying one of those reasonably-priced plasma cutters I see on Amazon someday though, as I miss having access to one of those on occasion.
 
#6
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8:30AM the truck arrives two hours ahead of schedule.

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The Saw is off-loaded.

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Down the driveway it comes.

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This is my neighbor John. His Kubota has forks, mine doesnt......


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Still palletized, waiting for the snow storm to end.

Nothing is more satisfying than having a toy delivered in a 28' box truck.
 
#8
ARGH!!!! no blade. this happens every time to me when i buy a new toy. the saw supplier had
to order a blade so i told him just issue me a credit for the blade and i will order one. ended up
going with two blades from coldsawshop.com, the guy was helpful and they make the blades in
their own shop out of USA made m2 hss. he even showed me the finished blades he made that
day. he sends ups tracking, very responsive! tracking told me this morning the truck is DELAYED
due to a snow storm between new york and california and no delivery date can be given.

can't win!
 
#10
ARGH!!!! no blade. this happens every time to me when i buy a new toy. the saw supplier had
to order a blade so i told him just issue me a credit for the blade and i will order one. ended up
going with two blades from coldsawshop.com, the guy was helpful and they make the blades in
their own shop out of USA made m2 hss. he even showed me the finished blades he made that
day. he sends ups tracking, very responsive! tracking told me this morning the truck is DELAYED
due to a snow storm between new york and california and no delivery date can be given.

can't win!
Can't blame it on California weather, Sorry Mid westerners this ones on ya'all.
 
#11
the blades arrived! woohoo!

they are sitting next to me in sealed plastic envelopes warming up. if i open them they are cold and immediately will be covered in condensation. i'll post pics tomorrow.
 
#12
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this is the 120 tooth blade followed a closeup of the teeth. both blades are 2.5mm thick M2 HSS and are 315mm (12-1/2") in diameter
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the 260 tooth blade and tooth closeup.
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i hope to get the saw installed this week when it warms up.
 

toomanytoys

Well-Known Member
#14
We have a saw like that at work but probably 30 years older. Doesn't cut straight anymore due to too many people who have no idea how to use it banging on it.
 

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