Starting the SNowBike, Need Imput and a Front Ski

smallbikes88

smallbikes88

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Well its allready snowed a couple of times here but not much is sticking. There is only about a inch or two on the ground. I wanted to start the snowbike sooner but have been buy with other stuff. I will start on it this weekend. I am using a bonanza frame that is kind of beat up. Its a 1" frame and a hardtail. I want to do some cutting and welding. I would like to find a front Ski from a snowmobile if anyone has one i will pay good for a nice one. Please send me a email or pm if you have one. Also i plan on cutting off the jackshaft mounts too only for clearance from the tav system. I will post pics in a little bit of the frame and what i want to do. Please contact me if anyone has a front ski i need one bad.
 
Mark G

Mark G

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I'm curious, why don't you just get a Chrysler Snorunner?? There's plenty of them out there, and virtually all of the parts are still available from multiple places. Made for adults (unlike most mini's), they are light, break down with a couple of pins, and are easy to squeeze power out of. Lots of fun too, and a lot less work than making your own.
 
smallbikes88

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Sorry mark. I have seen those sno runners in action and they olny go about 10 mph, The one i built last year did at least 35 and this one is gonna go faster with more power and headlight tail light? Its actually easyier for be to build one than find a nice sno runner, besides the power on those things suck. I hate 2 stoke engines with a passion.
 
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Ruppster81

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Would this work for you? I took both off to upgrade to plastic skis this year and wont have any use for these skis. They also have only about 150 miles on the 6" carbides. I'll sell them each or together.

 
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Mark G

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smallbikes88 said:
Sorry mark. I have seen those sno runners in action and they olny go about 10 mph, The one i built last year did at least 35 and this one is gonna go faster with more power and headlight tail light? Its actually easyier for be to build one than find a nice sno runner, besides the power on those things suck. I hate 2 stoke engines with a passion.
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I guess the ones you have seen were not running right. Stock form they run a little over 20 or so, and I have one that runs 35+. Believe me, thats plenty fast for basically a sno-moped. They were de-tuned from the factory, with an awful muffler and thick head gaskets. Just changing those two things make a huge difference. The power to weight ratio is actually impressive, considering stock it puts out about 7HP, and a few mods it pushes up to 11. (also they too have a head and taillight) As far as fining a nice one, theres plenty out there. But hey, I'm not here to convince you, if you hate two strokes thats cool, more of em out there for me:thumbsup:
 
Mark G

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I agree with you there, which leads to my next question. Why did you get rid of the one you made last year? I remember seeing it on youtube, that thing was cool!
 
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jimh

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You know Ogy and GTO are gonna tear you a new one for hacking the Bonanza. On the other hand there's no satisfaction like building your own.
 
smallbikes88

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I dont care if anyone says how bad it was to chop a bonanza, but thats why i chose this frame because bonanza's were made in california and never really intended for snow. i think its gonna be a awsome bike when done and it will look more like a minibike than the sno runner.
 
delray

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cool video tom s:thumbsup:
mark g, in the video they say it has a alternator to run 60 watt headlight and tail light or are they talking about a lighted coil built under the flywheel. was snorunner built in fonda lac wis where they built boat motors?(in the 70's and 80's) engine run a clutch or torque converter? i see in the video pulling a person. that thing must be running 6+ hp to do that.
they do look like they run good in the snow,but i am like smallbikes88 i like to build a mini snow bike. it's just more fun building something:grind::hack::weld:, then just buying something done,for me:thumbsup:
smallbikes88 i pick up two sets of snow tracks this summer. one set is much larger then the other. thinking of using the larger set? they look to be built little better,but i have not seen if the will work on my montgomery wards/gilson frame with rear swing arm. i may have to widen the frame or fine something else to use?
also was thinking i would have to mount the front ski to a set of rod ends(heim joints) mounted to the bottom of the forks allowing the front to turn better in the corners, so this way the ski will stay more flat to the ground and maybe helping the bike turn better?(something to try out?) i see in the snorunner video the ski is fix from moving,so maybe i won't need to do that?


 
Mark G

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delray- yeah, they were built right here in WI, I think it was Hartford though. They have a regular centrifugal clutch, but I've been toying around with a Comet 330 converter set up. Yep, light coil and electronic (no points) ignition under the flywheel. About your ski set up- The Snorunner ski actually DOES move, it is held on with a quick release pin (basically on the same plane as an axle bolt, if there were a wheel in there) and that allows the ski to move up and down. If it were fixed and not able to move, when you turn the bars the ski would not grab the snow, in fact it would do the opposite. I had one that the front ski was stuck and it was almost un-rideable. I saw another snow/minibike made out of a Gilson, and it even looked like he used the same set(the larger) of tracks that you have. Seems like he made a custom swing arm, but the rest looks stock. Looks cool, can't wait to see what you guys put together.
 
delray

delray

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couple pictures of you front end mark g would be good to look at:thumbsup: how does the bike ride? the front ski or rear track like to kick out on you or does it stay straight real good for you when riding. for my minibike frame,thinking i can just fab a new rear swing arm:thumbsup: i like to try to build it this winter?but i have been cought up on other things to do:doah:
 
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