I will let you know in a couple days if the other member is not sure. I live right around the corner from Motor City Minis, just never stopped in there yet. I know exactly what you mean in regards to the Lil Indian repops as I have purchased one of those a few years back, and yes the castings are horrible. But the wheel I am looking for is indeed a real Ruttman 4 spoke with the outer lip on the bead area.