Hent, You can remove me from the list or just proceed w/out me. It's been nuts at home since my son was born. Other things came up, the baby just spent 4 days in the hospital, work is always crazy hours and I have'nt been on the forum in weeks!!! I have the mini in primer and all the parts I need are here, I just can't seem to find enough free time to get to my project. I also have'nt found the correct engine for it so looks like I might be using a clone engine when I do get to working on it. Looking at the progress over the last few months the competition is FIERCE and it's gonna be a tough call to pick a winner. They're all awesome... Thanks a bunch... Rob