Saved From Nature - Jacks 32 Kart Project

#1
Hey all,

Who doesn't want a 32 Ford Roadster?? I sure want one, so I bought one. Yes yes, I know its not the real thing, but i'd say its close enough.....:laugh:

This is what looks to be an abandoned kart project from the 1980s. It also looks to have been sitting under some trees since then, too. The bottom of the frame is practically non existent, what was 30x30 box section steel now lays on my driveway as brown dust. I suppose I didn't help the frame structure when I attempted to sit in it!

However, all of that is reconstructable, and will be reconstructed. What I was more interested in, was the beefy axle setup, and steering box/setup. This kart has a neat little steering box, rack and pinion type. I have stripped, cleaned and painted this already.

The engine that came on it was a mid 80s (1985) Briggs and Stratton 3HP. The Shroud was so rusty that there was no bottom left in it! The gas cap had rusted onto the threads, and there were rocks in the fuel bowl :confused: and holes in the tank. However, being the Briggs whisperer that I am, I had the tank and shroud swapped out in no time at all and had it purring again. I was surprised at the lack of smoke, and how well it ran, and upon pulling the head I revealed a like new motor with very clean cross hatching in the bore :thumbsup:

Unfortunately the Comet clutch did not withstand the test of time and had rusted solid. I did get this un-seized, but it makes a scuffing noise every few seconds. I suspect this to be a bent drum, but I wouldn't be sure.

The motor I will be using is a............7HP, OHV engine. I decided to go against my tradition of using flat-heads for everything :scared: But i'm all for the better economy, larger fuel tank, more power, and first pull starting. The engine, a 212cc made in the same factory as a predator, should hopefully interchange parts with a predator if I needed anything more from it. Plus, I probably won't be able to see it anyway.

I plan to construct the body from sheet metal, and have a functioning door. This will almost be a sort of scale model of the real thing. I love the look of a simple rod, nothing fancy, with a few retro touches. For this, I was thinking of a flat black and red paint scheme, however this may possibly change. I want slicks on the rear! I found a place near me that sells the correct size (6") tyres, they are a grooved, yet smooth type.

More to come...

Stay tuned!
-Jackeo21













Sorry for the extremely long post! even I didn't think i'd need all this space... Also, I think this is the correct section to post this?
 

45t

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#3
Very cool project. I love the classic lines of it already. :thumbsup: You might want to swap out that bicycle sprocket on your drive axle. I'm not sure it with be able to handle the 7hp?
 
#4
is that one of the Shriners parade cars?
very cool imo.

also,on your rear tires you can use Zero turn lawnmower tires,the ones that sit outboard on the blade housing.:thumbsup:
they have a nice sharp edge instead of rounded,so they are flat.
 
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Nope, it's not a parade car. However, they do look similar!

The bicycle sprocket is going :laugh: I decieded that on the first day I owned it. It flexes when you move it side to side so there is no way that I am gonna be keeping it. I was thinking of getting a 60t flat plate sprocket from OldMiniBikes...
 
#6
Oh wow, this is awesome! :thumbsup: If somebody built that from scratch they captured the classic lines of a highboy for sure! If it was a kit I want one. :laugh: :thumbsup:
 
#8
Here is what has been done so far. I have fully stripped, cleaned and re-painted the unique steering box setup. It is now way way more responsive than it was when it was full of dirty, old grease. Now I need to purchase some steering box boots and call it a day with the steering box.

I'm currently working on disassembling the rear subframe. I need to figure out a way to remove the rear brake disc and sprocket hub. They do not have any grub screws securing them to the axle, but are keyed. I fear that they are pressed on :scared:



 
#10
Super cool find and glad to see it in good hands!! I like the Dodge in your first picture, my father in law has a 1946 6 cylinder stake rack he restored 20 plus years ago.
 
#11
Thats some good inspiration right there jdogg! I like the idea of using wood to better form panels and get the curvature right, but I can't imagine how many screws he had to go and buy! :laugh:
 
#12
I be sure to get a better photo of the Dodge sometime owend! Ours is far from finished, but we hope to retain the rat rod look. We will be running Chryslers 318 V8.
 
#13
Today I decided to begin with doing the grill as it is too wet to do anything outside right now. At the moment it is just a wooden template that we cut up and formed. I found some mesh with many holes in it (possibly from a speaker?) that I though would be neat to throw behind the grille. Based off the Model A grille (28-29).





Also, I was wondering about what sprockets and gear ratio to go with. Would a TAV make a significant improvement? The kart + person would be pretty heavy! I imagine the current sprocket setup would have been torquey but slow. I think i'd like a balance between torque and speed, not too fast but not walking speed.
 
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I would go with a TAV for sure Jackeo!! Like you said its going to be heavy and I think you will be much happier with performance!!
 
#16
I'm subscribed jackeo ! I'll be watching this build for sure ! That frame reminds me of some of the old hot rods...like this one .



I like that grille design...very cool !
 
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#17
Thanks Guys!

I've had a bit of a change of plans. I have decided to make this a very long term project, as i'm starting to realize how much work I actually need to put in to pull this off!

I found a cheap 5HP Briggs that I think would be perfect. Not only because it looks cool, but because it's vertical shaft, meaning it can run a 3/5 speed peerless gearbox. I managed to score a load of new mower idler and running pulleys (25 to be exact) for a very very good price. I hope to utilize these in my build.

Using a front engine and peerless transmission will allow me to use the rear axle setup for another project.

Updates soon-ish

-Jack
 
#18
Finally got the new beast today. Shes a model 130902 (9 indicating the vert. shaft). These are the more uncommon Briggs, and im sure that they are certainly a rarity these days. For memory most of these served on large walk behind mowers and vintage ride on mowers (the super early type) in the 1960s and 70s. I'm sure this one came off a large walk behind mower, produced by the Masport brand here in New Zealand/Aus.

It is in great condition, considering it's been around since 1976. Going by the paint condition i'll go ahead and say that its a low hours engine. Awesome!!! :thumbsup:

It goes well, but is a little slow to respond. The spark isn't the brighter blue color that i'm looking for, it's more of a dull orange, so i'll either clean the points or go ahead and replace them with one of my new sets. Ill need a new spark plug too!

I'd like to keep the engine looking the way it does, as the paint is just too nice to strip off and start over. I feel that I will base the rest of the paint scheme off the engine, clean, but slightly worn with obvious signs of use.

I've already got to work on a classic style header!

Recently I've been busy working on vintage mowers so there has been no progress on the Hot Rod. Hopefully, once I start making money again I will continue with the build. First on the list is Box Section tubing, which I'll need to recreate the lower chassis.

-Jack



 
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