Baja warrior front disc brake?
Easiest way to add front brakes is to put a rear wheel on it.
Works well....
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Makes things easier too your front and rear share the same shoes. AS the fornt wears swap out the front to rear and you can boith bakllance out your tyre wear and brake shoe wear.
There is a HONDA brake shoe that fits these and works a bit better than the Baja ones. I don't know the part number but maybe the local bike dealer can help you out
Works well....
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Makes things easier too your front and rear share the same shoes. AS the fornt wears swap out the front to rear and you can boith bakllance out your tyre wear and brake shoe wear.
There is a HONDA brake shoe that fits these and works a bit better than the Baja ones. I don't know the part number but maybe the local bike dealer can help you out
I bought a rotor and caliper setup at Scooter Parts & Accessories - Largest Selection for Chinese & Asian Scooter Parts. Wholesale Scooter parts, Parts for Dirt Bikes, ATV, Off-Road Kart Parts.. The tricky part was coming up with a hub to mount the rotor on the wheel. My brother in law was able to make me a steel one, but it wasn't very thick, so it was tough getting everying aligned. I had a welding shop mount a tab on fork to bolt the caliper. I finally got the rotor straight and welded on, but my welding is not perfect. I will say it works great. Much better than the rear drum brakes. For the next one I'll get a machine shop to make me a better rotor.
This is the rotor.
Dirt Bike Raised Front Disc Brake Rotor
I bought this caliper setup, but the line is a bit too short.
Hydraulic Brake Kit : Super Pocket Bikes
I think I should have bought this one.
Scooter Parts: Hydraulic Brake Kit
This is the rotor.
Dirt Bike Raised Front Disc Brake Rotor
I bought this caliper setup, but the line is a bit too short.
Hydraulic Brake Kit : Super Pocket Bikes
I think I should have bought this one.
Scooter Parts: Hydraulic Brake Kit
The font drum mod is weld free.
So far I have not had any issues with it wet or dry.
Hard to get water in it.....
Fact is when you get hard ont he binders in a stock 165 the weight shifts forward and the rear wheel will loose traction.
witht he rear drum added front and rear like I did you have more than double to stopping power.
Too much stopping power up front is not in your best interest if they lock up.
The front drum mod will take as much presure as you can squeeze without lock up. This leaves you free to modulate the rear that may lock in conjunction with the front in a hard braking.
Trust me.
This is enough stopping power for the 165....
So far I have not had any issues with it wet or dry.
Hard to get water in it.....
Fact is when you get hard ont he binders in a stock 165 the weight shifts forward and the rear wheel will loose traction.
witht he rear drum added front and rear like I did you have more than double to stopping power.
Too much stopping power up front is not in your best interest if they lock up.
The front drum mod will take as much presure as you can squeeze without lock up. This leaves you free to modulate the rear that may lock in conjunction with the front in a hard braking.
Trust me.
This is enough stopping power for the 165....
Not having a disk brake on a mb165 I can't say anything other than it looks neat. If I was capable of welding I'd try to convert both brakes to disk :grind:
However I do have a front drum brake on a mb165 and I can agree with Oldschool that it works great.
I've been in some pretty slimy wet mud several times this year and have not had any big issues with mud/water in the drums. I had mud over my engine plate once and had to dig the bike out. Once I got it free the brakes did feel a little faded for a couple seconds but then worked fine.
I thought the same thing.
However I do have a front drum brake on a mb165 and I can agree with Oldschool that it works great.
I've been in some pretty slimy wet mud several times this year and have not had any big issues with mud/water in the drums. I had mud over my engine plate once and had to dig the bike out. Once I got it free the brakes did feel a little faded for a couple seconds but then worked fine.
I thought the same thing.
I've been thinking about the front disc brake and doing a little online research. I still like the disc and caliper I mentioned previously, but I can't find a hub to fit it. I still have to get a price on making one for that disk, but I'm also thinking about this.
The axle diameter on the front wheel is 39mm with the paint stripped off. I've been looking at the MCP Standard Rear Brake Hub, and MCP "Super-Slot" Steel Rotor Rieken's Racing: Brake Rotors and Hubs - OUT2WIN.COM. They're go kart parts, but I think it would work. All I'd have to do is have the 1.25 bore on the hub enlarged to 39mm, or about 1.56 inches and recut the keyway. I'd then use my flux core welder to build up a "key" on the wheel and then file it to fit. Without the hub in my hands it's hard to know if there's enough meat there to make the hole large enough without interfering witht the bolt. I think it might work, and at only $16 it might be worth experimenting.
The axle diameter on the front wheel is 39mm with the paint stripped off. I've been looking at the MCP Standard Rear Brake Hub, and MCP "Super-Slot" Steel Rotor Rieken's Racing: Brake Rotors and Hubs - OUT2WIN.COM. They're go kart parts, but I think it would work. All I'd have to do is have the 1.25 bore on the hub enlarged to 39mm, or about 1.56 inches and recut the keyway. I'd then use my flux core welder to build up a "key" on the wheel and then file it to fit. Without the hub in my hands it's hard to know if there's enough meat there to make the hole large enough without interfering witht the bolt. I think it might work, and at only $16 it might be worth experimenting.
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Update. I found that MCP makes a hub with a 40mm bore, which should fit without modification. It must be rather uncommon becuase I found it at only two kart shops online. None of the others I looked at had it. I ordered the 40mm hub and disc. I'll use the same caliber I got from Scooter Parts & Accessories - Largest Selection for Chinese & Asian Scooter Parts. Wholesale Scooter parts, Parts for Dirt Bikes, ATV, Off-Road Kart Parts.. It it all works I'll post all the details.
The front rear drum stops good.
The front end on the 165 is not very strong.
You can bend things from fatigue and get stress cracks.
Once you factor the beating these take at high speed with the extra force front brakes adds you might want to consider beefing up the whole front end and using a completely upgraded set of forks and wheel.
The front end on the 165 is not very strong.
You can bend things from fatigue and get stress cracks.
Once you factor the beating these take at high speed with the extra force front brakes adds you might want to consider beefing up the whole front end and using a completely upgraded set of forks and wheel.