Building a fence are you ?

[Newoldstock]

Just read this in the Star.

The Great Wall of Foolishness - thestar.com

Keep in mind the Star is written by narrow minded liberals in Toronto as apposed to western rightwing loonies eastern Franco Seperatists, or the dreaded Northern Socialists....
You get some attitude and slant from all but the T.O. media always sound so smug and arrogant

Neighhbors:
I was not aware we needed a fence.
I am sorry of my dog has pooped in your yard.
My doughter liked your flowers so she picked them from your garden for you.
The gate for the pool wasn't locked so we used your pool lol.
Thats kind of what this is about eh?
Around my home we have no fences, people wander through yards and sometimes stop in for a chat or borrow something. Its not an issue because I rather have a neighbor wander through and look out for me than no one.
Maybe thats just me but a fence doesn't exactly make things any safer or better. Won't stop a burgler, and if I run out of beer I need to walk further to get to my chum garrage. Can't see what that guy over there is smoking with a tall fence ( he's an old Finlander, he's smoking a fish or meat thats the sort of thing I am talking about ). Might want to see what he's got in that smoker and try some, fence makes it difficult to get over there with beers in my hands.

That works on a local level.
Can it work on a national level?
I think it did for along time.
I think we loose something when we let things we can't realy control anyways scare us into building wall

Personaly I think we have gone way overboard now on all this security and paranoid BS on both sides of the longest undefended boarder.

We have been friends and neighbors for a very very long time.
I think its time complain and find a nice piece of undefended boarder and walk accross.
Give me some lead time and I'll get the BBQ warmed up and have a cold beer waiting for you neighbor.

Politicians are stupid......

 

[Oldsalt]

The horrible fact that our Good Buddy to the North has, over many years, repeatedly drug their feet, or more often absolutely refused, to unilaterally institute security measures that are required for the safety of the USA. Canada has historically pandered to the third world opponents of the US; they don't-won't-can't do anything to protect the interests of the Western World. I suppose it makes them feel safe. The defense of freedom and safety for piece loving nations is almost totally dependent on US taxpayers. Canada, and other limp wrested nations that are supposed to be our friend, play both ends toward the middle. The "If we are nice to our sworn enemies they will be nice to us" is the know-nothing stance taken by their government and, due largely to their federally controlled media [TV, newspapers and etc.] it is embraced by the great unwashed in them latitudes. This is nothing new, they have long believed that by bending over they will be loved by the crazies in the world that swear every Christian and Jew must die. It also doesn't help when Canada, being much poorer that the US, and therefore hate American success, subconsciously [at best] overtly [at worst] wish to make us as uncomfortable as possible....if given the opportunity and it doesn't cost money or tends to overtax their already overworked gray matter. I have spent a lot of time in Canada [NEVER at my own choice] and can attest to the Canuk mindset.

What in the heck runs through the minds of the Moose Hunters up there that it becomes a big deal, sometimes a national issue, over something the USA does on their own property. I gotta ask; When was the last time ANY newspaper in the US composed a snide article about something the Canadians were doing on their own property and which was therefor solely their own business. I submit such an article would be difficult to find. The Canuck media is, as the Star article attests, rife with it.

I suppose I should, inasmuch as this garbage has been going on for many years, just accept the fact that they have poor manners and wrongly believe they have rights that extend across borders. Maybe it is just a result of living in a Socialist country.

 

[kbs8ball]

I installed fence for a few years. Its hard work but it pays well. I like fences, the bigger the better, with barbed wire too.....

 

[Neck]

Good fences make good neighbors!

 

[jdogg]

good read

 

[45t]

Keep in mind the Star is written by narrow minded liberals in Toronto as apposed to western rightwing loonies eastern Franco Seperatists, or the dreaded Northern Socialists....
You get some attitude and slant from all but the T.O. media always sound so smug and arrogant.

Not to change the direction of this thread, but this type of thing has bothered me for awile. I would just like to get accurate, factual and truthful news. Not opinions, assuptions, bias, politically motivated and or supported comments and gossip. It seems the news is glamorized and inflated in some cases to make ratings or to beat the other news providers to the punch.

News around my parts (chicago) goes as follows.

Another innocent person shot and killed in drive by, another IL govenor or politician arrested for corruption, Pedofiles arrested, self promoting later broadcasts or network prime time shows, hollywood stars personal lives, traffic, weather and local sports (chicago only sports, which sucks).

Hollywood stars personal lives is not news and sports is not Jay Cutler getting engaged again. The other stuff is just a broken record spewed out on a daily basis.

Sorry for the rant, I'm just in a bad mood today.

 

[Oldsalt]

Not to change the direction of this thread, but this type of thing has bothered me for awile. I would just like to get accurate, factual and truthful news. Not opinions, assuptions, bias, politically motivated and or supported comments and gossip. It seems the news is glamorized and inflated in some cases to make ratings or to beat the other news providers to the punch.

News around my parts (chicago) goes as follows.

Another innocent person shot and killed in drive by, another IL govenor or politician arrested for corruption, Pedofiles arrested, self promoting later broadcasts or network prime time shows, hollywood stars personal lives, traffic, weather and local sports (chicago only sports, which sucks).

Hollywood stars personal lives is not news and sports is not Jay Cutler getting engaged again. The other stuff is just a broken record spewed out on a daily basis.

Sorry for the rant, I'm just in a bad mood today.

I could not agree more. But the issue here revolves around a typical Canadian self-serving editorial in a relatively backwater portion of North America being thrust upon a web site that is demonstrably a USA based site by a Canadian that starts his thread with a snide "Building a fence are you?". The "US" and "YOU" stands out for anyone that cares to open their eyes. I said, and will say again,that a person in a foreign land has absolutely no right to link a far left, limp wrested queer editorial from a know nothing second rate editor in their country and post it with the hope them stupid selfish Americans become aware of how wrong headed they are. If we are to be fair about this an occasional American should post crass half truths on Canadian dominated web sites. Such as on their ever popular "How to Skin Your Beaver" site. But the fact is that Americans could not care less what they do. When was the last time you sat down with a beer in your hand and said to your buddy "What is the latest stupid thing being done in Canada?". Never going to happen. When was the last time anyone ever saw an editorial in a USA newspaper that lampooned Canada? Not in my memory has that happened. WE just don't care what they do up there. So asking for the same courtesy should not shock anyone.

 

[Newoldstock]

Your country Oldsalt.

Build a fence if you like, but for decades things were just fine.
I feel its a little pointless since our too economies and countries are so closely integrated.

If anything we should be trying to reduce boarder regulations.
recently a lot of effort was put into tryingto cut red tape and share information as well as stream line security around " North America ".

Is that what we both want?
I thought so.

I see no reason for an American to need a passport to come here.
I am confused by the need to have one ( or a nexis card ) to get into yours for a vissit but the real question is does this make you safer?

I am guilty of vissiting, seeing some relatives, and spending some money at Harbour freight lol
A fence will not likely prevent me from doing it again...

 

[rte11700]

I like Canadians. They don't do anything. I mean, the last country anyone would invade is Canada. Let's just let them be. If it weren't so dismal, boring, and cold I'd probably move there. They're like Americans with a touch of gay (French). Peaceful.

(implied arrogance meant jokingly).

 

[Newoldstock]

I like Canadians. They don't do anything. I mean, the last country anyone would invade is Canada. Let's just let them be. If it weren't so dismal, boring, and cold I'd probably move there. They're like Americans with a touch of gay (French). Peaceful.

(implied arrogance meant jokingly).

Taken as such and kind of funny at that.

 

[Oldsalt]

Item: Canada totally destroyed their armed forces. No air force, navy or army worth the name. Dropped out of NATO and depend on US tax dollars to defend them from invasion by powerful nations like Somalia and Peru. Ya. Sure. Closer relations for mutual security. All talk, no walk.

Item: Arrogant Canada decided [unilaterally]that it is no longer OK for an American hunter to take his rifle to hunt in another part of America [Alaska] on the Can-Am highway that we built and paid for! How is that for 'trying to get along'. And 'fewer regulations' at the border. The loons decided that in as much as they have had their guns taken away it is necessary to make it as difficult as possible on us free folks. Really nice. Somewhat expected from a socialist country.

Item: Canada will not, even though it is against international law, return an arrested felon to the U.S.A. Numerous mass murders and first time cop killer have been harbored in Canada until we pledge that we won't evoke the death penalty. True. These goofy people have found another way to have as great an impact as possible in matters that don't concern them. The reason? They REALLY believe they are "more in touch with their inner selves" or some such rot and they can't help themselves grasping an opportunity to say "Look how much kinder and humanistic we are than you Americans". Jerks.

There are a lot more idiot things that the Canadians have dreamed up; far to many to list here.

To continue to maintain that it is pointless for us to consider building a secure border line is to say that the US is stupid to consider it. And, by extension, we aren't capable of seeing the facts as clearly as we would if we only possessed Canadian eyes. No one in a foreign country, that harbors even a smidgen of courtesy, would be crass enough to expound on it. But Canadians simply can't help them selves.

My main wonderment is, if the Dwellers of the North dislike America so much [due to our stupidities, warlikeness, lack of human kindnesses, etc. & etc.], why do they all live as close as possible to our border? Packed together like a bunch of animals bellied up to a trough.