short stroke hemi
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I like the NoN Hemi engine... Comes .050 in the hole, put a Honda crank in .070 in the hole, then a Hemi flat top... .090 in the hole...
Now put a Honda 3.403 rod in for .010 pop up and a .045 gasket...
208cc semi long rod... Revs quick, and hauls the mail out of the corner... Less cc's, less stroke...but a quick revver...
Also I like a Honda with a Predator crank, .020 rod for .010 pop up .045 gasket... Revs quick with good bottom end pull...
Mini Stroker...
Now put a Honda 3.403 rod in for .010 pop up and a .045 gasket...
208cc semi long rod... Revs quick, and hauls the mail out of the corner... Less cc's, less stroke...but a quick revver...
Also I like a Honda with a Predator crank, .020 rod for .010 pop up .045 gasket... Revs quick with good bottom end pull...
Mini Stroker...
You managed to get TSC to budge on a price?
My Gosh the man can get blood from stones and perhaps turn water to wine lol.
Good show chum wish I was around for that I would have jumped in and added some cash and bargaining power.
If that option comes up for the 223 Champion you let me know and I will wire you some coin.
I'm going to try that rod you speak of depending on when the Canadian pesos stops dropping
My Gosh the man can get blood from stones and perhaps turn water to wine lol.
Good show chum wish I was around for that I would have jumped in and added some cash and bargaining power.
If that option comes up for the 223 Champion you let me know and I will wire you some coin.
I'm going to try that rod you speak of depending on when the Canadian pesos stops dropping
Our dollar really bits right now...
TSC had their screaming deal on $129.99 for the Champion...
But the 208cc Champion has a bigger wrist pin size for the pin and Rod, and a different taper on their crank...
It does come with a flat top piston... 18cc head with 27/25 valves...
It has 7 bolt hole side cover... Extra ribbing on the block front and back.
TSC had their screaming deal on $129.99 for the Champion...
But the 208cc Champion has a bigger wrist pin size for the pin and Rod, and a different taper on their crank...
It does come with a flat top piston... 18cc head with 27/25 valves...
It has 7 bolt hole side cover... Extra ribbing on the block front and back.
Most 208 engine have that oddball rod do they not?
I have one from PA with that problem ( your Gx160 T2 long rod fix has that block potentialy back in play with a predator piston )
I have a few other 196 clones including a Champion and I noticed the differences around the block on the Champ.
Thanks for the taper issue tip, I just assumed it was a Honda style crank.
I have one from PA with that problem ( your Gx160 T2 long rod fix has that block potentialy back in play with a predator piston )
I have a few other 196 clones including a Champion and I noticed the differences around the block on the Champ.
Thanks for the taper issue tip, I just assumed it was a Honda style crank.
There is actually Staff??? Ohh yes if you look long enough you might catch a glimpse of one.
My guess is that they are far in the hole with a dished piston to still come out at 208cc...
I know the Champion was .110 in the hole...
But I put a clone crank, Hemi Flat top and a .020 rod and got it to .020 in the hole...with a dished piston it was flush with the deck...
Or Predator crank with a .020 rod and a flat top for flush with the deck...
My guess is that they are far in the hole with a dished piston to still come out at 208cc...
I know the Champion was .110 in the hole...
But I put a clone crank, Hemi Flat top and a .020 rod and got it to .020 in the hole...with a dished piston it was flush with the deck...
Or Predator crank with a .020 rod and a flat top for flush with the deck...
What did you find with the PA 208?
I don't have one of those Predator pistons to test with and the OEM piston is not compatible with my rods
I have a +020 in reserve for this build when the trail went cold on how to make the hemi head I welded up flow the way I wanted.
Yes I still have the PA head with the valves, but I remain infatuated with the idea of a canted valve squish head.
Ya one more thing is that bastard taper on the PA 208 crank?
I don't have one of those Predator pistons to test with and the OEM piston is not compatible with my rods
I have a +020 in reserve for this build when the trail went cold on how to make the hemi head I welded up flow the way I wanted.
Yes I still have the PA head with the valves, but I remain infatuated with the idea of a canted valve squish head.
Ya one more thing is that bastard taper on the PA 208 crank?
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Have not had a PA motor at home yet... Looked at them in the store lots of times...
My Dad got a Subaru Ex21 from PA for $99.00...
I ended up getting a few Champions from TSC, and a couple Predators from Canadian tire that came with RTC6 heads...
I do have a Hemi head... They look interesting...
Best thing is to contact Youngengines he is the man when it comes to heads and carbs...
A friend I race with has a Young 390 carb and that thing rips!!! It runs just as good if not better than my Tillys...
But, the 390 carb is no slouch... Youngengines made almost 30hp with a 390 carb!!!
My Dad got a Subaru Ex21 from PA for $99.00...
I ended up getting a few Champions from TSC, and a couple Predators from Canadian tire that came with RTC6 heads...
I do have a Hemi head... They look interesting...
Best thing is to contact Youngengines he is the man when it comes to heads and carbs...
A friend I race with has a Young 390 carb and that thing rips!!! It runs just as good if not better than my Tillys...
But, the 390 carb is no slouch... Youngengines made almost 30hp with a 390 carb!!!
Young engines and I have talked it over a bit at Bob's.
Great insights but the PA motors are a Canadian thing not too many have played with.
Just you and I talking about this in Canada.
I have a plan that involves more welding and some epoxy for the G200 head.
Rolling the dice on that PA predator and hope its not too deep in with the +020 rod and flat top.
I have plans but I need to see where it sit with a special 290 cam for valves, springs and pushrods.
Great insights but the PA motors are a Canadian thing not too many have played with.
Just you and I talking about this in Canada.
I have a plan that involves more welding and some epoxy for the G200 head.
Rolling the dice on that PA predator and hope its not too deep in with the +020 rod and flat top.
I have plans but I need to see where it sit with a special 290 cam for valves, springs and pushrods.