2 speed, how does it work?

#23
Illustrated How It Works: the Two Types of 2-Speed Jackshaft Setups

I tried searching but couldnt really find anything on it.
I have a comet 2 speed jackshaft set up, what is needed to make this work?
Does it require a clutch with an extra gear on the motor?
thanks
I originally illustrated from memory the Sears 2-speed minibike I had at age 14. Courtesy of OldMiniBikes members my knowledge was expanded to realize the Sears was the Comet setup.

Other members soon contributed and it was explained how the Fairbanks-Morse 2-speed differs, is easier to build, and is better at keeping chain lubricant out of the jackshaft clutch. :thumbsup:

Each phase is illustrated. The F-M illustration includes a side-by-side comparison with the Comet setup on page 4.

Jon
 
#24
^^ this is fantastic! I actually found that in pdf format on the net today . Thats very well done and thanks, I was going to post it in this thread and make sure whomever did it knew it was still helping. Also to note, the other place I found it credited members of OldMiniBikes.com
 
#25
I originally illustrated from memory the Sears 2-speed minibike I had at age 14. Courtesy of OldMiniBikes members my knowledge was expanded to realize the Sears was the Comet setup.

Other members soon contributed and it was explained how the Fairbanks-Morse 2-speed differs, is easier to build, and is better at keeping chain lubricant out of the jackshaft clutch. :thumbsup:

Each phase is illustrated. The F-M illustration includes a side-by-side comparison with the Comet setup on page 4.

Jon
Beautiful explanation and illustration. I even GET it!:thumbsup:
 
#26
Jackshaft, Gear Ratio, and Speed Calculators

The Fairbanks-Morse and Comet need a dual sprocket clutch like this one from OldMiniBikes on the engine.
The Fairbanks-Morse uses a standard clutch on the jackshaft.
The Comet requires a hard-to-find jackshaft clutch that fixes the bell to the shaft, and floats the clutch shoes on a bearing.

You can easily experiment with gear ratios, tire sizes, and RPM's to see what various speeds would be happening.
If you have Excel, download these spreadsheets, put in your numbers, and experiment freely:

No Jackshaft

2-Speed Jackshaft

Plain Jackshaft


No Excel? Don't "get" spreadsheets? Easily use them online, no software needed:

No Jackshaft

2-Speed Jackshaft

Plain Jackshaft

Jon
 
#28
Old thread but just to understand correctly, if a regular sprocket was used instead of the sprag one way clutch style then the secondary clutch would be fighting the 1st gear ratio and not be going any faster?
 
#30
Old thread but just to understand correctly, if a regular sprocket was used instead of the sprag one way clutch style then the secondary clutch would be fighting the 1st gear ratio and not be going any faster?
Yes. When the secondary clutch engages, the jackshaft spins faster than the 1st gear ratio. The one way sprag clutch freely allows the jackshaft to spin faster. The transition from 1st to 2nd gear is smooth.
 
#32
I printed that out earlier and have been trying to find a sprag to make it work properly but seems hard to find. Looks like a custom made sprag is the only option
You can buy a one-way bearing clutch and press it into a sprocket.
For example https://www.mcmaster.com/products/one-way-clutches/
Another example https://www.formsprag.com/products/General-Purpose-Clutches/Bearing-Envelope-Design/CSK-Series

There are #35 sprockets with one-way clutches, additional looking might turn up more results.
For example this is current in November of 2023:
https://www.daytonsuperiorproducts.com/one-way-sprocket-clutch.html

Hope that helps!
 
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