California members best stock up on Predators/Hondas/Etc.

[pomfish]

They're coming for your small engines!
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/ne...ban-gas-powered-lawn-equipment-in-california/

Predators could be money in the bank.

 

[mustangfrank]

Trying to imagine all the hassles a landscaping company would have working all day with battery powered equipment.

 

[Strigoi]

I'm not worried. My friend's parents visit from Arizona on a regular basis. On their last trip here a couple of weeks ago his dad brought him 2 new hemi Predators. His dad is into minibikes too.

 

[toomanytoys]

If I lived in California I'd be buying every gas powered piece of equipment I could get my hands on. Be money in the bank in the future!

It'll only be a matter of time before we lose all our gas powered stuff.

I plan on getting a new vehicle and new motorcycle in the next few years. Bike will go in the garage to wait for D day that way it'll be new.

Realistically my 7 and 5 year old may never drive a gas car.

 

[Rowedoo]

Tree huggers need to lay off the wine .

 

[toomanytoys]

Tree huggers need to lay off the wine .

It's funny all the pushing to ban fossil fuels our coal demand has went through the roof. We went from $40 a ton to $130 a ton. Actually reopened a mine that was closing! We have rolled 50 million tons out already this year. Company just gave out 15% salary increases.

I need 18 more years and I'll be golden.

 

[manchester1]

It is kinda funny when you think about certain things. Those poor landscape guys. How about a generator when there is no power. What are they going to do with all those dead lithium batteries.?

 

[Mariah]

California laws are beyond reality, pretty soon those people will need haz-mat permits to throw away ear wax, toe jam or boogers!

 

[I74]

California laws are beyond reality, pretty soon those people will need haz-mat permits to throw away ear wax, toe jam or boogers!

Yea ,, you know those 3 things ''also'' cause cancer. LMFAO !!!

 

[O.J.Didit]

The power grid in California is junk. Now they want you to plug your car and your mower into it..... what a bright idea [pun intended].

O.J.

 

[FOMOGO]

To me this will become an all encompassing law. It will offer blanket coverage to anything that is not a licensed, taxed and insured vehicle. Lawn equipment might be the context at the moment but the phrase "off road" covers every aspect of fun. What about drag racers In the very heart of the roots of drag racing? Sand buggies. Well the list is only as short as their imagination... Sad to see it come to this.

 

[I74]

The world we ''used'' to know,, is unfortunately gone.

 

[I74]

The power grid in California is junk. Now they want you to plug your car and your mower into it..... what a bright idea [pun intended].

O.J.

Definitely to many shorts ''between'' the seats & steering wheels.

 

[SAS289]

It is kinda funny when you think about certain things. Those poor landscape guys. How about a generator when there is no power. What are they going to do with all those dead lithium batteries.?

If someone sees a market for LP only or LP/NG only generators they'll make them.

 

[Mariah]

This is all a set up to get their own way, you know who I am talking about. Today gas hit $3.25 and diesel hit $4.31 and todays news just mentioned wind and solar power is now equal in price to fossil fuels. We were energy independent last year with gas and diesel at 1/3 less in cost. How f**king dumb do they think we are? I'm not looking forward to 3 more years in the toilet bowl economy they put us in!

 

[toomanytoys]

This is all a set up to get their own way, you know who I am talking about. Today gas hit $3.25 and diesel hit $4.31 and todays news just mentioned wind and solar power is now equal in price to fossil fuels. We were energy independent last year with gas and diesel at 1/3 less in cost. How f**king dumb do they think we are? I'm not looking forward to 3 more years in the toilet bowl economy they put us in!

For reference steam coal went from 40 dollars a ton to 130 a ton.

We just had a big meeting about this last week. They want to ramp up production! I've been working at a coal mine for 20 years now. Market has been up and down forever but this is the highest I've ever seen our sale price. Our cost delivered is around $30 a ton.

 

[Mariah]

I just added coal to my "burn it while you can still buy it" list, my storage & project building has a wood/coal furnace that heats it!

 

[Skipp]

What are they going to do with all the dead batteries?

 

[nblakeh]

What are they going to do with all the dead batteries?

More than likely they will be recycled similar to the millions of lead acid automotive and truck batteries that are recycled every year. Also there could be a core fee similar to L/A batteries to incentivize people to not just throw them into the garbage.

 

[desert rat]

How much does it cost to dispose of a Tesla battery?


Recycling costs Tesla about $4.50 per pound of battery. Assuming a Tesla battery is 1,500 pounds, it costs about $6,750 to recycle an entire Tesla battery pack.Jul 23, 2021
Right. That's worth it.

300,000 to 500,000 miles

According to SolarReviews, the current batteries in Teslas are designed to last for 300,000 to 500,000 miles. After that point, the battery will likely need to be replaced. SolarReviews points out that a Tesla battery might still work beyond 500,000 miles, although with a reduced range per charge.Sep 16, 2021

What is the cost of a replacement battery for a Tesla Model 3?
In a tweet last week Tesla CEO, Elon Musk, indicated the cost of replacing battery modules in the companies Model 3 will cost about $3000 – $7000 USD. Not a bad price considering the current batteries are designed to last 300,000 to 500,000 miles, which is the equivalent of 1,500 cycles.

For those that can't count that high total cost for the battery replacement and recycle fee is $13,750