fast tote goat: obviously your referring to drag racing when you say "people who are stuck on one style of riding", OK. but with the underground type of riding you guys do or at least from what I have read on this board how would anyone know the location of your rides or any other rides for that matter in order to join along ? One more thing about drag racing, especially if your trying to build and go fast on your own sort of speak, it is very very challenging and time consuming so perhaps there just not enough time to go and do a hill climb, thunder dome event, or soapbox event. Don't get me wrong I take 3, 5 sometimes 8 to 10 mile rides on my minibike here in Fontana, stop at gas stations, Del Tacos, stop at a park for a rest, then back to riding. My point is it doesn't always have to be an organized event to be fun, or safe. I once rode with a group of guys in Moreno Valley, all through the city street, stopped at a liquor store for some Slim Jims and soda then headed over to there drag stop and took a couple of passes. Rumor has it there will be an event coming up in Riverside at Adams Raceway, not sure the date, but sure would like to know so that I could take a couple of my karts out there to play around on, and my minibike ofcorse.