Building my minibike

#1
I posted this earlier on the Hamb board, but it may be more appropriate here... or not

I was walking through my neighborhood Harbor Freight the other day and the 6 1/2 Hp Predator engine was on sale for under 100.00. If you know about this engine, it's damn nice. Pretty much a ripoff of the Honda.
I got to thinking about how much I loved my minibike as a youngster and thought " Lets do this!"
So I thought that maybe I could manufacture frames and send them off. They'd be drilled and fitted for the Harbor Freight Predator engine and the tires they also sell at Harbor Freight for 13.00 each. So you'd get a frame kit with accessories, go to HF and purchase an engine and tires spend a weekend assembling and painting and end up with a good minibke for a nice savings.



So I sat down and designed a frame on my cheapie DELTACAD program, purchased some 7/8 steel tubing and set to work.

Here's the drawing of the frame I'll bend my tubing from.







I have a Tubeshark bender which is an awesome tool. I marked the tubing from the drawing and bent a frame side.





Then another





Since this is to be a prototype, things are always subject to change. .....And they did. My buddy Dana came over with a peanut gas tank he recovered from an abandoned storage unit. I love it!







I was going to just narrow the frame sides from the seat to the steering pivot like lots of minibikes, but the tank wont fit over the tapered frame rails. So I bent a 180 degree arc and brought the frame rails side by side to the front.







When I join tubing, I always insert a smaller diameter of tubing inside the splice to aid in alignment and strength as well.









Here's a photo of the basic frame tack welded into form









The supports for the front forks are cut from 1/8 steel. Here's a drawing on the plate.





Whenever you make two identical pieces, spot weld them together. They can then be drilled and shaped together. when you're done, split them apart and you have two IDENTICAL pieces





I welded the handlebars into position, and welded two short pieces of tubing at the ends of the fork shafts to hold the axle.







Here's a photo of the complete basic frame.





Its all been a lot more work than I figgured, so I'll probably abandon the idea of producing them for sale, but it was a real interesting exercise and a lot of fun. I'll post the rest of the project as it progresses.
 
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#4
I posted this earlier on the Hamb board, but it may be more appropriate here... or not

I was walking through my neighborhood Harbor Freight the other day and the 6 1/2 Hp Predator engine was on sale for under 100.00. If you know about this engine, it's damn nice. Pretty much a ripoff of the Honda.
I got to thinking about how much I loved my minibike as a youngster and thought " Lets do this!"
So I thought that maybe I could manufacture frames and send them off. They'd be drilled and fitted for the Harbor Freight Predator engine and the tires they also sell at Harbor Freight for 13.00 each. So you'd get a frame kit with accessories, go to HF and purchase an engine and tires spend a weekend assembling and painting and end up with a good minibke for a nice savings.



So I sat down and designed a frame on my cheapie DELTACAD program, purchased some 7/8 steel tubing and set to work.

Here's the drawing of the frame I'll bend my tubing from.

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z360/ChuckKaparich/DSCN0213_zps2ae3dd0f.jpg





I have a Tubeshark bender which is an awesome tool. I marked the tubing from the drawing and bent a frame side.

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z360/ChuckKaparich/DSCN0198_zpsd5c70d63.jpg



Then another

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z360/ChuckKaparich/DSCN0197_zps89ba4b39.jpg



Since this is to be a prototype things are always subject to change. .....And they did. My buddy Dana came over with a peanut gas tank he recovered from an abandoned storage unit. I love it!

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z360/ChuckKaparich/DSCN0202_zps764ac074.jpg





I was going to just narrow the frame sides from the seat to the steering pivot like lots of minibikes, but the tank wont fit over the tapered frame rails. So I bent a 180 degree arc and brought the frame rails side by side to the front.



http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z360/ChuckKaparich/DSCN0201_zps6855448d.jpg



When I join tubing, I always insert a smaller diameter of tubing inside the splice to aid in alignment and strength as well.



http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z360/ChuckKaparich/DSCN0203_zps9b7ac3ea.jpg





Here's a photo of the basic frame tack welded into form



http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z360/ChuckKaparich/DSCN0205_zpsbc4f653a.jpg





The supports for the front forks are cut from 1/8 steel. Here's a drawing on the plate.

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z360/ChuckKaparich/DSCN0207_zpse18ca521.jpg



Whenever you make two identical pieces, spot weld them together. They can then be drilled and shaped together. when you're done, split them apart and you have two IDENTICAL pieces

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z360/ChuckKaparich/DSCN0210_zpsa6282d94.jpg



I welded the handlebars into position, and welded two short pieces of tubing at the ends of the fork shafts to hold the axle.

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z360/ChuckKaparich/DSCN0211_zps0791ed80.jpg





Here's a photo of the complete basic frame.

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z360/ChuckKaparich/DSCN0212_zps475c33e9.jpg



Its all been a lot more work than I figgured, so I'll probably abandon the idea of producing them for sale, but it was a real interesting exercise and a lot of fun. I'll post the rest of the project as it progresses.
It always takes a lot of time to fabricate the first of anything. After you do it the first time you figure out the short cuts. If you're doing it for yourself it doesn't matter how long it takes.

Manufacturing something for sale is another matter. You have to consider the time you spend bending and welding the tubing plus the time fabricating the other parts. Take that time into account along with the cost of the material and shipping and it's hard to compete with what's out there. Motovox is selling a complete rolling chassis which is basically a complete minibike minus the engine for $150.00 shipped to your door. Hard to compete with that.

Nice workmanship, great looking frame, will make a nice looking minibike. Looking forward to seeing what it looks like when it's done
 
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#6
I like your frame design and would like to have the first one you sell to the public.If you decide to send me a PM...Thanks.

Rocco...

You can just bend the tubes and ship it...I can weld it.
 
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#17
Nice build. You may never be able to compete with the Chinese, but I still think there is still a market for American made products and I would proudly pay for the additional cost. I really like the Motovox frame for appearance but their quality is what you pay [less] for. I think you are on the right track as long as you keep it simple and avoid the extra time on specialized pieces which you could market as premium services/add-ons if need be. Mass production on assembly will be where your efficiency will come from if you ever decided to go large. I look forward to seeing the finished bike.
 
#18
Very cool! Now, tell me about the Streamliner.


Here's a photo of the streamliner. Its a B gas lakester that hasnt run on the salt yet. We're hoping for August speedweek this year.
I had a health setback a little over a year ago and the lakester project went on hold. Then it stayed on hold while I finished the new home/shop
Its a front wheel drive 501 Hp smallblock.
We call the shop "Strange Days" and very little normal work happens there.
Some VERY unusual projects have rolled out those doors.:eek:ut:
 
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#19
Ah....it's a lakester, didn't see that front tire completely in the picture. Cool! Hope to see you on the Salt in August.
 
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